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Graphic in box header[edit]

I really don't think the pixel image of Obama should be in the template. The article included in this series all have plenty of images, so it does not add anything and, IMO, distracts from the informative nature of the series box. I think it should be removed. --"Evb-wiki ("talk) 02:18, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Disagree. The image in the box helps visually identify that this is part of a series, much the myriad info-boxes such "New York Elections, etc., the nav boxes such as ""Marine Corps", ""Department of the Navy" etc. which use flags and official seals as visual cues that this is part of a larger work. "Lestatdelc ("talk) 10:20, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Accessibility of "Wingnut Info"[edit]

The wikilink to the citizenship controversy ought to be wikilinked somewhere in the Obama articles. It's being discussed here. I would think that a "see also" in the image article would be appropriate, but others have disagreed. What do you think? Incidentally, I put it into this template at the suggestion of another editor.[1]Ferrylodge (talk) 01:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I think it could be at "Template:Barack Obama instead, but honestly I'm not even sure if it's worthy to be linked there. In my opinion, these conspiracy theories are pretty fringe to be included with the rest of the stuff in this template. Most of these theories are on the internet (i.e. YouTube), and even though there are several lawsuits, the mainstream media organizations dismissed these claims long agao. "Khoi"khoi 02:22, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Assuming it's not notable enough to be on any template, it seems like it ought to be wikilinked somewhere in the Obama articles, for purposes of accessibility. These claims may not be credible, but they have received a lot of media attention. Shouldn't this wikilink at least be in a footnote somewhere, or in a "See Also" section somewhere, in the Obama articles?Ferrylodge (talk) 02:31, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with the prospect of it being included in a footnote or a see also link. I actually wouldn't object to having it at "Template:Barack Obama, I was simply unsure whether it would be undue weight or not to include it. You are correct that it has received a lot of media attention, I just wasn't sure if it was as notable to be included along with things such as his early life, his transition, his candidacy, etc. "Khoi"khoi 02:34, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Tricks with 4000px fonts and empty image[edit]

A recent edit undid my change of a couple of weeks ago. My edit had made the following change (inserted text underlined): "[[File:Pix.gif|30px|link=|Barack Obama]]". The "|link=" was added so that the reference to the dummy image ""File:Pix.gif would not confuse the "screen readers used by visually impaired people into thinking that the placeholder image was worth announcing to the reader (for details please see "WP:ALT #When to specify).

As far as I can see, that dummy image is there purely for spacing, and can just as easily be replaced with a space character, to avoid the problem entirely. I've done that in the "sandbox and you can check the result in the "test case. To be honest, though, I don't understand all the tricks being played here with "font-size:4000px" and the dummy image claiming that it's Barack Obama and the like. If the sandbox change would break something if installed, could someone please explain why? "Eubulides ("talk) 09:21, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I took out the "link=" because it made the navbox's header about a half a foot long instead of half an inch. Maybe something else could be worked out that wouldn't cause this problem, I hope? "↜Just M E here , now 09:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Which browser are you using? (I'm using Firefox 3.0.12.) And, do you see the same problem with "Template:BarackObamaSegmentsUnderInfoBox/sandbox right now? "Eubulides ("talk) 09:42, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, Eubulides, I still see it on your sandbox page. I just use my Internet Explorer button on my desktop to "browse"(?) with. (Or at least I think. I'm not too hip about computer stuff!) "↜Just M E here , now 09:56, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, could you please try "Template:BarackObamaSegmentsUnderInfoBox/sandbox again? You may have to refresh your browser to get the latest version. Thanks for checking this. "Eubulides ("talk) 10:12, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
It looks OK now! (How do I find out which version of Internet Explorer I'm using, I wonder. I'll check. Be right back.) "↜Just M E here , now 15:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
If it works now, then it's less important to know which IE version you're using. Thanks for helping to debug it; I installed the nontricky version from the sandbox. This version should both look nice in your IE version, and sound nice to a visually-impaired reader using a "screen reader. "Eubulides ("talk) 16:06, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, Eubulides. Excellent work! "↜Just M E here , now 17:01, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Category[edit]

This should be in Category:"Part of a series on" templates, not "Category:People and person navigational boxes, as it isn't a navigational box. --"86.40.100.33 ("talk) 00:26, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Actually the appropriate subcategory would be "Category:United States politics sidebar templates. --"86.40.100.33 ("talk) 00:28, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Replaced "Category:Political leader navigational boxes with "Category:United States politics sidebar templates. Also, when there is one, a template's documentation page (see "Template:Barack Obama sidebar/doc) is usually left unprotected - so you may be able to make the edit yourself in the future. Regards, "Callanecc ("talk • "contribs • "logs) 09:29, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
I haven't made a change regarding the "part of a series on" category as I'm not sure and can't easily find other examples. I've leave unanswered for further input. "Callanecc ("talk • "contribs • "logs) 09:33, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Not done: Can't find other examples, closing. "Mdann52 ("talk) 13:35, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2015[edit]

Please add the "'15 under the second term, beside the "'14. "99.235.156.199 ("talk) 04:45, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done{{U|"Technical 13}} ("e • "t • "c) 15:13, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Changing format[edit]

Hello all,

I made some changes to the template which were reverted so I would like to discuss some of those ideas here. I think my changes will make the template easier to read and more aesthetically pleasing. I realize that traditionally there is a way that President's templates are set up, but I feel like these minor changes are an improvement. I wouldn't remove any links but would change the order in which they are displayed. If there's another place I can discuss this, please point me in the right direction. Thanks!

My ideas: 1. Place political positions and electoral history together, at the top of the template. These are two of the most important things to know about a politician, so the top seems like a good place for them. 2. Organize positions held in reverse chronological order. Presidency at the top, then senator, then state senator. This gives the Presidency a more prominent role in the template and allows us to see a chronology. 3. Add links to the democratic primaries including 2012, as they are an important contest involving Obama's electoral history. (Compare their places on Hillary Clinton's and Donald Trump's templates). Move the existing link for the 2008 primaries to the appropriate place chronologically. 4. Move personal life, etc to the bottom, along with other miscellaneous articles such as books and awards.

I truly think these changes will make the template better; please let me know what you think about them, either individually or as a group. Thanks, "Michelangelo1992 ("talk) 22:49, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Things I might not include[edit]

Do other people think that the termination of federal for-profit prison contracts and the Honduran Coup D'etat are important enough to Obama's presidency/political career to include in the template? "Orser67 ("talk) 23:35, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

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