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lower case subtitles[edit]

Thanks for your work. What's your reasoning for the lower case sub-headings on Peter Dutton page? I would have thought headings should be capitalized.

(I presume we're talking about [1].)
"MOS:HEAD says "headings are in "sentence case, not title case", ie only the first word of the sentence is capitalised.
In standard English a comma (in particular the comma after the year in those headings) does not separate two sentences, it splits a single sentence into multiple clause, so (for example) "2015, immigration policy" is single "sentence", not two sentences, thus even the word "immigration" is not capitalised. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 12:48, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I think you answer is perfectly reasonable. I'm still not comfortable with the way it looks but, given that its the prescribed method, I'll willing to roll with it. — Preceding "unsigned comment added by "Cyeks5Om ("talk • "contribs) 14:28, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

One possible alternative is:
  • Remove the 2014, 2015 subheadings (leaving the text directly under "Minister for Immigration (2014–present)", because there's not really enough there to justify the subheadings
  • Remove the years from the remaining subheadings (do we really need them?) and capitalise the first letter of the first word (ie sentence case) of what's left, giving:
Minister for Immigration (2014–present)
On 23 December 2014, Dutton was sworn in ...
In September 2015, Dutton cancelled the visa of ...
Immigration policy
...
Rising seas joke
...
I'd be inclined to leave "2016 election" unchanged though. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 14:56, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Dutton's Children[edit]

I was wondering why you removed extra details about Peter Dutton's family. [2] I saw you cited the "BLPPRIVACY policy to explain - except that there is not enough information given in what I wrote to allow identity theft, and nor is the information from primary sources but rather it is from information already publicly available online. "Powertothepeople ("talk) 00:49, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

I probably should also have cited "WP:BLPNAME, in particular (with my emphasis added here):

"The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects ... The names of ... family members ... may be part of an article, [if] such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject."

I assert that the details (that I deleted) are not relevant to the Dutton's notability or the reader's understanding of him. Given that "The presumption in favor of privacy is strong", we ought not include the information unless there is a particular reason to that helps the reader's understanding of Dutton. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 06:14, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks ![edit]

Thanks for your categorization help ! "Sagecandor ("talk) 11:07, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

congrats[edit]

If you hadnt noticed youve just broken the 50k edit range - cheers "JarrahTree 12:45, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

you should speak first[edit]

surely from your capacity to have the understanding of the distinction between a physical phenomenon and a human created one they are not cat/subcat you are back into your habit again mitch - darling range is a geographical physical feature, the localities are not - you are trying to do your obsessed subcat thing is really something you should give a really big break "JarrahTree 13:43, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

darling range is a geographical physical feature, the localities are not—Then why did you add the suburb categories to "Category:Darling Range [3][4][5][6] ...? I assumed that your categorisations were correct, but perhaps they are not. If those suburb categories do belong in cat:Darling Range, feel free to quote the section of "WP:CAT that negates the default "WP:SUBCAT "a page or category should rarely be placed in both a category and a subcategory or parent category (supercategory) of that category". "Mitch Ames ("talk) 11:46, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Your issue is with a rule - and how you like to do it - the connections between the localities was very specifically because they were situated on or adjacent to the physical reality - at that stage you hadnt found the religion of subcat. Personally I think it is a dead language, but then I am not going to touch your edits - the reader is the loser... "JarrahTree 11:51, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

As always, if you don't like the MOS guideline, propose a change to it. If any of the people who've complained because I've made an edit in compliance with a clear and unambiguous MOS guideline went to "WT:CAT and proposed a change, and even some of those people supported a change to the guideline that they all seem to dislike, then the guideline would be changed, the editors would be happy, and the readers would (according the aforementioned complainers) be better off. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 12:03, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
LOL - I am sure we have better things to do mitch - the sheer weight of more pressing wp en issues suggests to me that we have our niches to try to keep up against the tsunami of loose ends - you are most welcome to revert anything that I have ever edited (of which must get into the 00's by now) - I have an opinion, but I do not want to get dragged through the gauntlet of silence at quiet talk pages where the resounding flood of absence makes me wonder if we have editors left in action... "JarrahTree 12:11, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
I am sure there are parts of the category structure of wikipedia actually desperately needs your application - and I am grateful you do it - and encourage your continuing into the application - I just have a problem where it impinges on things that I think should be considered differently but I havent really the patience to endure the process... get the whip out - there are still thousands of cat issues I am sure... "JarrahTree 12:25, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on[edit]

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on (2 RfCs, actually, one less than six months ago and another a year ago). The new RfC is at:

"Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Allow private schools to be characterized as non-affiliated as well as religious, in infobox?

Specifically, it asks that "religion = none" be allowed in the infobox.

The first RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:

The result of that RfC was "unambiguously in favour of omitting the parameter altogether for 'none' " and despite the RfC title, additionally found that "There's no obvious reason why this would not apply to historical or fictional characters, institutions etc.", and that nonreligions listed in the religion entry should be removed when found "in any article".

The second RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:

The result of that RfC was that the "in all Wikipedia articles, without exception, nonreligions should not be listed in the Religion= parameter of the infobox.".

Note: I am informing everyone who commented on the above RfCs, whether they supported or opposed the final consensus. --"Guy Macon ("talk) 03:17, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

the term was beginning to appear in every new article[edit]

your eagle albeit very different set of eyes compared to mine "Toodyay valley would rather suggestions/conversation than tags or templates please... "JarrahTree 13:01, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Mostly done: [7][8].
However "Toodyay valley#Limits says:
Originally "Old Toodyay" or "West Toodyay" is the western end of the valley. The eastern limits of Newcastle or the current Toodyay being the western end.
Should that be "eastern limits of "Newcastle/Toodyay is the eastern end of the valley"? (Or words to that effect, with appropriate grammar, etc.)
"Mitch Ames ("talk) 11:47, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
unless there are any WP:RS to the contrary - the road junction to northam is possibly current limit - eastern "JarrahTree 09:53, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

damned foo and x in foo[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Southeast_Asian_media or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_in_Southeast_Asia  ? any thoughts "JarrahTree 13:51, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

maybe nuthink then - the answer from an english admin is that the correct format - is... media in southeast asia.

What a swamp - if you followed my recent eds you could have a field day in cats, subcats and very dubious articles... what a weird and wonderful mob they are. cheers "JarrahTree 10:49, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

the link should work[edit]

If it didnt work for you for whatever reason...http://sro.wa.gov.au/events/margaret-medcalf-award/turning-men-stone-wins-2017-margaret-medcalf-award ‘Turning Men into Stone: a social and medical history of Silicosis in Western Australia from 1890 to 1970’ was written by medical historian Dr Criena Fitzgerald. or Fitzgerald, Criena (2016), Turning men into stone : a social and medical history of silicosis in Western Australia 1890-1970, Carlisle, Western Australia Hesperian Press, "ISBN "978-0-85905-635-9  I have a copy (and have actually found some records she hasnt seen yet :) ) "JarrahTree 11:51, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Speaking of links - if you included one in your post, to the wikipedia article or talk page that you're referring to, I'd have some idea what you were talking about. Otherwise, I don't, because there's no correlation between the words in your above post and the words that appear in any recent article or talk page that I'm aware of.
Perhaps you are talking about words that do not appear in any article etc ... "Mitch Ames ("talk) 12:05, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

oh come on...And the Margaret Medcalf award goes to ... who? "Mitch Ames (talk) 11:49, 30 June 2017 (UTC) I was replying to that.... "JarrahTree 12:10, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Do I really have to spell it out...
Your recent edit to "State Records Office of Western Australia#Annual award has a bullet list of years but neglects to tell the reader who the award was given to. The references should allow the reader to verify the facts, but the reader ought not actually have to read the reference to get the basic information. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 12:38, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

fair point and reasonable - you have an email explaining context of last hour so on wp en "JarrahTree 12:40, 30 June 2017 (UTC) I do hope you have read the email(s) and understand what the hell was going on at the same time... "JarrahTree 12:54, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

I read the e-mails. As always we put minor irritations aside and get on with the job of making a better encyclopedia. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 06:25, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
minor irritations? yeah, it shows what I think, you underestimate the issues from a slow connection and raising admins in time of crisis... "JarrahTree 06:33, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

further irritations[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Western_Australian_Machinery_of_government_changes problem with leading you to water, you tend to rearrange the consitution of water and transmorgify it to another substance - however - in this case - the caps, the style and general mos are open to you to make further mess of ... :) "JarrahTree 07:41, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

nah you never take the bait...an invitation and you ignore it - should I be more, should I put it, more... ? "JarrahTree 09:49, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Not ignoring it, thinking about it. "Machinery of government" (upper-case "M", lower "l") is definitely wrong. "machinery of government" (both lower) is probably correct - I not convinced that "Machinery of Goverment" (both upper) is a proper noun just because the govt capitalised on their website - it looks more like they just wanted to encourage the acronym.
... and the italics are almost certainly unnessary. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 11:47, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
ok - good - keep thinking then - more power to the thunking... it sure had me beat as to where to imitate or ignore the gov caps and things "JarrahTree 13:10, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Ignoring the government is generally better for one's mental health. Face-smile.svg "Mitch Ames ("talk) 13:25, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
I am unable to respond to that point on wiki... YesY "JarrahTree 13:49, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Uncapitalised and italics removed. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 01:24, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
... and a few other improvements. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 02:44, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

I fail to see why[edit]

an article about holidays, has a top section about penalty rates prior to info about holidays - any comment? It is like about an article about cars, which starts from the contents of the boot... the disconnect seems to interest no one (as usual) - but then this is wikipedia I suppose "JarrahTree 12:00, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes disconnects are bad, what we need is connections, things that connect other things together, like those bits in a chain, what are they called again - oh, that's right "links. Please make my life just a little bit easier and use them a bit more often.... Face-smile.svg "Mitch Ames ("talk) 12:05, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

I thought my role was to make your life as difficult as possible - I am truly disappointed in such a good faith request https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_holidays_in_Australia&action=edit&section=1- - since when is penalty rates and the sabbath a lead para follow on? what sort of mind has that level of association - the average reader (your hero/ine) surely is no longer even conversant with the sabbath or anything the remotely associated - then holiday=penalty rate? nah, wrong "JarrahTree 12:12, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Typical - the articles that relate to legal and political background on pay rates/penalty rates are either 5 or 10 years old and need updating... "JarrahTree 12:26, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps they don't get updated because no-one ever "links to them ... "Mitch Ames ("talk) 12:31, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Nope the lawyers that started editing in the 2007-2009 era have long slipped away, :( "JarrahTree 12:34, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps someone will do some work on them on a public holiday. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 13:36, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
that is weird - why would an average reader about holidays think that law and labour law have anything to do with having a holiday? hmm, weird "JarrahTree 13:48, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

interesting[edit]

"Contract for Convict Supplies". The Perth Gazette And Independent Journal Of Politics And News. 4, (202). Western Australia. 24 October 1851. p. 2. Retrieved 8 July 2017 – via National Library of Australia.  "JarrahTree 09:36, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

parsing the void[edit]

explain yourself - "JarrahTree 12:06, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm not going to justify every edit that I've made in the last arbitrary-time-period, and you wouldn't read it if I did. "Could you please narrow the field down a little? "Mitch Ames ("talk) 12:09, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
My talk page you..... "JarrahTree 12:12, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
what are /were you trying to say at my talk page - it is not that obvious at first read "JarrahTree 12:13, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
In two articles you recently added [9][10] a statement to the effect that "this government department did not change in the "2017 Western Australian machinery of government changes". I opined that the fact that "nothing changed" is not notable enough to include in the article. We don't need to say that "nothing happened" unless there was some explicit reason why the reader might have expected something to happen.
ok on a further read - not being changed in that change is actually notable - as the other changes wrought maelstroms in staff changes and disruptions into the psyche of some of those involved on both sides... as always an understanding mistaken "JarrahTree 12:30, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
I remain as yet unconvinced. However I'm sure the words that you add to the articles explaining why the fact that "nothing happened" is notable - along with the "reliable sources that you provide so that I (the reader) can "verify those statements - will soon change my opinion. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 12:49, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Unlikely - I thought the fault finding mechanism n your below ground radar might detect the valid resources, sources and explanations :) "JarrahTree 12:54, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
I think the "onus is on the editor adding the material to justify its inclusion. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 13:38, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
nah you lose - precedent - I am prepared to bet there are 2 million edits on commons and about 500k here on wp en, that has neither been acknowledged or understood as an existing expectation :) "JarrahTree 13:46, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

too late to explain[edit]

I will try to explain with links some other time "JarrahTree 15:04, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

If you are going into the edits I have done regarding Australian aboriginal language articlers, could we please first discuss ? "JarrahTree 03:50, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Miwa[edit]

yeahwell (re grumpy old man message) so whats the red links storm for the miwa people - you gonna create a new indigenous group of wa stub then ? "JarrahTree 12:27, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
At article popped up on my watchlist (because it had changed for completely unrelated reasons) and I noticed and felt obliged to remove the unnecessary italics on the word, then obviously I thought I should link it, so I searched for an article "Miwa, found "Miwa (disambiguation), which didn't at the time mention the people, but there was one other "article that redlinked to it, so it was a legitimate addition to the DAB page, but if one article could link to it, them maybe more could, and one thing led to another ...
But you know I'd never dream of writing an article about something of which I know nothing ...
"Mitch Ames ("talk) 12:45, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
what a pity I cannot transfer the emoji from my ipad that would respond to that comment "JarrahTree 13:08, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Dedication[edit]

What an amazing amount of work you have put into the Toodyay items!! Thank you - your persistence has created an impressive improvement into the spread of Toodyaypedia!! Barnstars or accolades otherwise could not adequately cover or explain the appreciation! "JarrahTree 14:02, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Sp mistake[edit]

just to prove you cannot help yourself and you have to check my spelling, you obviously dont have enough to do in life "JarrahTree 13:31, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

What do you say to headings in your toodyay masterpieces?[edit]

text that has no headings - in preferences there is in gadgets -

the lack of a properly separated lead para seems to be a problem - lack of a lead para and headings makes the text run down and down

any thoughts ? "JarrahTree 06:21, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

I think that vector skin is ugly and I don't use it. I think that mobile phones are for making phone calls, not reading encyclopedias on. I think that encyclopedic articles should have lots of text. If you use an actual phone and turn it sideways the text doesn't run as far down ... :-)
But seriously...
Yes I know that at least some/more of the articles should be divided into sections (independently of how they look in mobile view). Unfortunately in some cases the text as supplied doesn't lend itself to inserting section breaks - it might need a little re-arrangement and re-ordering, which might need a better understanding of the subject matter than I currently have. I might have another look through and see if any of them can easily be done. And of course you're always welcome to "fix it yourself. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 07:26, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

hmmm - so fix it indeed - if only the hours in the day... mobile usage and access is very different from your planet... the trend is out there... you could have added proper lead sentences and paras - as a minumum... "JarrahTree 07:30, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

I thought I had ensured that each article did have a "lead sentence at least, if for no other reason than to allow appropriate "bold formatting of the article's title in it. If that's not the case, let me know which article(s) don't meet "WP:LEADSENTENCE, and I'll fix it/them. LEADSENTENCE is easy; "WP:LEADPARAGRAPH less so. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 08:48, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

what are the chances of you ringing me[edit]

It might be easier in a phone call :) -- "JarrahTree 12:03, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

"Chunder?[edit]

I might challenge your "most likely" claim for the Aussie rhyming slang. An alternative, and to my mind more plausible, explanation of its origin can be found e.g. that source. But it's far from clear cut? Thanks. "Martinevans123 ("talk) 12:54, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough. But we still shouldn't assume that the reader knows the slang term "spew". "Mitch Ames ("talk) 13:17, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
I agree, we shouldn't. But I think we at least need to mention the "watch out under" ship theory. "Martinevans123 ("talk) 13:20, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps it would be better to remove "chunder" completely - the section is "Rhyming slang", so introducing alternative etymologies (that are not rhyming slang) will unnecessarily confuse things. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 13:24, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Good point. "Martinevans123 ("talk) 13:32, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

having a good chunder down under[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Southern_newspapers - nah - some other time "JarrahTree 13:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

It might seem like the curse of the dreaded lurgie with bells on

I have been trying to change from Wiki Takes etc 2013 - to titles more like -

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia:Western_Australian_Wheatbelt_Project_-_Railways

I suspect it is a self created nightmare - any advice or help gratefully accepted :)

Sheesh, I think I might have sorted part of it "JarrahTree 12:03, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Re the railway project - I think I see the bypass redirect is the issue - thanks for that...

as for the Toodyay revitalisation = yes "JarrahTree 13:10, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
I am reading all this. Edits are being done to articles, categories, projects etc as applicable. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 14:02, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
very much appreciated... "JarrahTree 14:18, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
wow an island cleanup champion - thank you so much - a lot of hard work - cheers "JarrahTree 14:04, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry[edit]

bvmboozled[edit]

maybe bamboozled - how come https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shire_of_Wagin is a populated place (?) - and where is the editable correctable part - someone has hidden it ? maybe I have been editing too much but i am offended by a 'shire' being designated a populated place - what do you think? "JarrahTree 01:08, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

"Category: Populated places established in 1887 is added by {{"Infobox Australian place}} - you can see it in that template's source as
{{#ifeq:{{{type|}}}|lga|{{#ifexist:Category:Populated places established in {{{est}}}|[[Category:Populated places established in {{{est}}} |{{{name}}}]]}}
According to "Shire of Wagin § Population the Shire's population is greater than zero, and it meets the definitions of "place:
so "populated place" is not unreasonable.
If it really bothers you, raise the matter at "Template talk:Infobox Australian place. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 04:16, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

diffusion[edit]

confusion - what do we need to do to ascribe the condition, albeit epidemiologically or etymologically speaking ? "JarrahTree 09:24, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

"We" need to click on the links helpfully provided in the "OP and follow the instructions in the link target. Specifically, in this case "... "non-diffusing subcategory ..." --> "Non-diffusing subcategories should be identified with a template on the category page ... {{"Non-diffusing subcategory}} templates should be used for sub-categories that are non-diffusing".
"Mitch Ames ("talk) 09:33, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Could I have that in Croation or Macedonian? perhaps in Lao southern dialect? "JarrahTree 09:45, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
which means the wheatbelt cat is the mother, and the local government is the sub cat - and the shires are the subcat of the subcat (yes?) - what and where does tag go to save your awb finger ? does that make sense or more mud :)  ? "JarrahTree 10:02, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Hmmm... maybe {{"Non-diffusing subcategory}} is not the way to go. To use it, we'd have on "Category:Local government areas of the Wheatbelt region of Western Australia:
but that doesn't seem right because the shires are not listed under "Category:Wheatbelt (Western Australia), the towns are.
OK, first we need to answer the question: do we want the towns listed under both subcats of "Category:Local government areas of the Wheatbelt region of Western Australia and its parent "Category:Wheatbelt (Western Australia)?
Or should they be listed only under Cat:LGAs? "Mitch Ames ("talk) 10:04, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
My thoughts -
Towns do not go into LGA of wheatbelt cat (only lga go into lga cat) -- they go into - shire of x cats only - how does that sound

I have no problem if you rip up anything that doesnt fit with subcat - a long as wheatbelt cat remains - if that make sense - ? "JarrahTree 10:09, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

ONE problem is the template boxes of towns in wheatbelt or regions - they are not arranged against lgas
so towns are freestanding within the template box for region and separate from lgas "JarrahTree 10:32, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
so the template has: -
title: Towns in the Goldfields-Esperance region of Western Australia
in the cat - Towns in Western Australia
in the cat - Ghost towns in Western Australia
in the cat - Goldfields-Esperance
with the cat - Shire of Coolgardie
So my thought is the region comes first as parent cat
then the lga
and the template 'towns' in a region needs a separation into lga's (ie shire etc)

as a better heirarchy with no need to be afflicted by influenza dissuffion diffusion...

region - shire - town - (things in town)
things other than in town go into shire

how does that smell ? "JarrahTree 10:47, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable - I think.
I'm happy to have no no-diffusing categories, which means that "Category:Towns in Western Australia will end up with only subcats (eg Category:Towns in Xxxx region, which we don't yet have), no pages in it. Then in Cat:Towns in Xxxx region, we'd no pages, only categories, eg, Towns in xxx LGA, and in
Note that templates, eg {{"Towns Wheatbelt WA}} don't have to match the categories - but if the templates do include (for example) "Category:Towns in Western Australia or Category:Towns in the Wheatbelt (Western Australia) then those categories will include the towns automatically (which is not necessarily a bad thing).
It might be best if you pick one specific region, LGA and a few towns and set them up as you think they should be, then we can look at the result. If we're happy with it, we can update the other regions, LGAs, towns accordingly. AWB can automate the process of removing the duplicate catgories where necessary. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 13:17, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

scrappy stub[edit]

"Raine Square - have fund adding and fixing it :) "JarrahTree 09:15, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

I've added the obvious. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 09:56, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 Done like a dinner then :) "JarrahTree 10:13, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Raine square talk page - has a quote from the item for you to play with from http://inherit.stateheritage.wa.gov.au/Admin/api/file/ff428db3-c2de-cc2d-491b-5c80bd2ee850 - "JarrahTree 11:51, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 Done after dinner mints "JarrahTree 12:06, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Mary Raine updated accordingly. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 12:20, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
... and as soon as you write the Royal Hotel article, I shall link to it ... "Mitch Ames ("talk) 12:22, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
... its gonna be a scrappy one  :) better than none at all? "JarrahTree 09:33, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
"Stubs serve a useful purpose. The fact that the hotel gets an entry on inHert says that it is notable enough for an article, so a stub is better than nothing at all. The stub might also prompt someone to add it to "List of heritage buildings in Perth, Western Australia - there's two incoming links already, three if we add it to "Royal Hotel. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 09:47, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 Done like mince pies, "Royal Hotel, Perth utilising your masterful editing of the inherit reference (which I never get right, so thanks) also enough for a cat already Raine Square its all happening "JarrahTree 09:54, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
unfortunately away from teh eykboard for da rest of the pm - otherwise I could have thrown a few more stubs your way... ava good one "JarrahTree 10:54, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Another one: "Raine Medical Research Foundation - "Evad37 [talk] 03:36, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

arrgghhh[edit]

Myer building is 5 floor, forest chase 2... ? "JarrahTree 00:41, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

"Forrest Chase is a five level retail complex ..." so sayeth the reference. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 00:43, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Myer is part of Forrest Chase, and one might reasonably consider the number of floors/levels to be the maximum in a building/complex. "Mitch Ames ("talk) Today, 08:47 (UTC+8)
unless there is a complex legal or land title amalgamation of myer and forest chas property that is not clearly enunciated somewhere in the public domain it is wrong "JarrahTree 00:48, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
If there is some aspect of forrest chase governance that has it with myer as tenant, maybe... "JarrahTree 00:53, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
OK forrest chase website is impervious as italian marble. Yup they include Myer as within the ambit of their surrounding complex - its all one and 5 floor indeed .. flabbergasting opaqueness as to the history of the site "JarrahTree 00:57, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
No doubt you'll write a "Forrest Chase § History to enlighten us all... This might help. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 01:29, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
nope - as I have just said impervious and opaqueness - I know more about Boans and Padbury builidings "JarrahTree 01:33, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Speaking of Padbury builidings - please opine at "Talk:Padbury Buildings#Suitability as an article. "Mitch Ames ("talk) 02:20, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Why not wander into the great unwashed part of wikipedia - prod rubbish... "JarrahTree 04:19, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Be brave Mitch[edit]

Do it yourself! "JarrahTree 00:32, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

In my spare time, between add full stops, removing spaces, moving refs to after punctuation ... "Mitch Ames ("talk) 00:33, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
haha what about sorting out the logistics companies of Australia who were originally trucking companies.. :) "JarrahTree 00:49, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
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